[Radiance-general] Radiance Installation and Running
Ikrima Amaireh
ezxia at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu Jun 18 06:27:13 PDT 2015
Hi Axel again,
Please let me make my enquiry more clear because I'm getting a bit confused.
I don't mind to use UBUNTU, knoppix, learnix or other operation system to run Radiance. By the end, what I need exactly is running Radiance (with almost all its programs) for two things:
1. generate BSDF for CFS to be used with Window7.3 tool.
2. calculate daylight levels for a grid points inside the space with same CFS.
To be honest, I did a lot of readings on how to do that but can't try that because I can't manage to install full Radiance package (I have already installed Radiance for windows but can't run genBSDF program, as I know).
I hope you can help me to sort that out :)
Regards
Ikrima
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Hi Axel,
I have tried to boot from UBUNTU DVD but cannot manage to install radiance yet? do you have any advices please?
Regards
Ikrima
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1. Re: Errors while transposing with Rcollate. (Greg Ward)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:16:08 -0700
From: Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com>
To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with
Rcollate.
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Well, that was quicker than expected. Just after sending this e-mail, Sarith wrote again and the problem seems to be resolved. He had an old version of rcollate that didn't work when stdin was redirected from a file, but the latest works in that mode with -t but not from a file under Windows. This was easy enough to fix, and the next NREL release should behave properly. Meanwhile, Windows folks may have to redirect the input when transposing ASCII files with rcollate.
A tempest in a teacup, really....
Cheers,
-Greg
> From: Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
> Date: June 16, 2015 11:50:02 AM PDT
>
> Let's take this discussion offline and post again when it's resolved. At this point, it isn't clear if the problem lies with the build, the command-line interpreter or Windows system it's running under, or the rcollate command itself.
>
> If you have some idea and want to help us work this out, write to me and I'll loop you back in.
>
> Cheers,
> -Greg
>
>> From: Richard Mistrick <RGMARC at engr.psu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>> Date: June 16, 2015 5:50:36 AM PDT
>>
>> Something else that is totally bizarre is that if I type your entry on the command line, rcollate crashes with an MSVCR120.dll error, but if I paste Greg?s text into the command line it gives me the usage text ? and they appear to be completely identical commands. We are using the NREL compile of Radiance.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> From: Greg Ward [mailto:gregoryjward at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:59 AM
>> To: Radiance general discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>>
>> Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know why redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought this was supported under Windows.
>>
>> I'm stumped.
>>
>> -G
>> From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <sarith at psu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>> Date: June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>>
>> The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
>> in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)
>>
>> Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows but didn?t get it work either way.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sarith
>>
>> From: Greg Ward [mailto:gregoryjward at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
>> To: Radiance general discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>>
>> Hi Sarith,
>>
>> This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt
>>
>> If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <sarith at psu.edu>
>> Subject: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>> Date: June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>> I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x 60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an incorrect transpose.
>>
>>
>> I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab separated values. My file contains:
>>
>> 1 2 3 4
>> 5 6 7 8
>> 9 10 11 12
>>
>>
>> The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt
>>
>>
>> I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt
>>
>> This gave me.
>> 1 2 3
>> 4 5 6
>> 7 8 9
>> 10 11 12
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sarith
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From: Axel Jacobs <jacobs.axel at gmail.com>
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Hi Ikrima,
I'm afraid LEARNIX is no longer maintained. You can still download the ISO image from here: http://www.jaloxa.eu/mirrors/learnix/index.shtml
but be aware that the latest release is from 2011.
Chances are that if you run it on hardware later than 2011, you will get problems, which are most likely to show up with weird display issues, or networking hardware not working.
To add insult to injury, the copy of Radiance that comes with this old LEARNIX CD-ROM is from, well... 2011.
You are much better off trying out a bootable UBUNTU CD-ROM or DVD. If you read the 'Running LEARNIX' PDF, available under 'Documentation', you'll find a number of different ways of running LINUX alongside or within Windows.
Installing Radiance from the standard Debian or Ubuntu repositories is fairly straight-forward.
Hope you will succeed with you endeavour.
Best
Axel
On 16/06/15 17:32, Ikrima Amaireh wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> How can I get learnix copy? And is learnix much different/better than knoppix itself for running radiance?
>
> Regards
> ikrima
>
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> From: Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with
> Rcollate.
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> Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know why redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought this was supported under Windows.
>
> I'm stumped.
>
> -G
>
>> From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <sarith at psu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>> Date: June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>>
>> The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
>> in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)
>>
>> Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows but didn?t get it work either way.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sarith
>>
>> From: Greg Ward [mailto:gregoryjward at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
>> To: Radiance general discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>>
>> Hi Sarith,
>>
>> This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt
>>
>> If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Greg
>>
>>
>> From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <sarith at psu.edu>
>> Subject: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>> Date: June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>> I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x 60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an incorrect transpose.
>>
>>
>> I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab separated values. My file contains:
>>
>> 1 2 3 4
>> 5 6 7 8
>> 9 10 11 12
>>
>>
>> The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt
>>
>>
>> I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt
>>
>> This gave me.
>> 1 2 3
>> 4 5 6
>> 7 8 9
>> 10 11 12
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sarith
>> _______________________________________________
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> Hi Sarith,
>
> I just tried both calls (with and w/o redirecting from stdin) with the
> latest Windows binaries from
> NREL(https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases)
> and both work fine at my side...
>
> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt > d.txt
> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt
>
> Which version of rcollate are you using?
>
> Best,
> David
>
>
> 2015-06-16 6:58 GMT+02:00 Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com>:
>
>> Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know
>> why redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought
>> this was supported under Windows.
>>
>> I'm stumped.
>>
>> -G
>>
>> *From: *"Sarith Subramaniam" <sarith at psu.edu>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>>
>> *Date: *June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT
>>
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
>> in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)
>>
>>
>>
>> Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through
>> using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows
>> but didn?t get it work either way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sarith
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Greg Ward [mailto:gregoryjward at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
>> *To:* Radiance general discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sarith,
>>
>>
>>
>> This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files
>> under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:
>>
>>
>>
>> rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt
>>
>>
>>
>> If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *"Sarith Subramaniam" <sarith at psu.edu>
>>
>> *Subject: *[Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
>>
>> *Date: *June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is
>> Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x
>> 60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an
>> incorrect transpose.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab
>> separated values. My file contains:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 2 3 4
>>
>> 5 6 7 8
>>
>> 9 10 11 12
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:
>>
>>
>>
>> *rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt*
>>
>>
>>
>> *rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried
>> explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:
>>
>>
>>
>> *rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt*
>>
>>
>>
>> This gave me.
>>
>> 1 2 3
>>
>> 4 5 6
>>
>> 7 8 9
>>
>> 10 11 12
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sarith
>>
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