[Radiance-general] Radiance-general Digest, Vol 101, Issue 11

nassif nassif nynassif at gmail.com
Fri Jul 13 00:17:52 PDT 2012 

Hey Greg, it is true. i asked our administrator to download the latest one.
thx a lot! now i will check how it goes.

thx again for your support!

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>    1. Re: BSDF missing (Greg Ward)
>    2. Re: Predicting Patch-based diffuse Irradiance     values (Greg Ward)
>    3. Re: Updated Radiance Installers Available (Jack de Valpine)
>    4. Re: Updated Radiance Installers Available (Guglielmetti, Robert)
>    5. Re: BSDF with rtcontrib (Guglielmetti, Robert)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:15:56 -0700
> From: Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com>
> To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDF missing
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> My guess is that you don't have the latest version of Radiance.  If
> "rtrace -version" doesn't return "RADIANCE 4.1" or later, then  you need to
> download more recent binaries or recompile from source.  Rob Guglielmetti
> just posted the locations of binaries for various systems.  You should grab
> one of those.
>
> Best,
> -Greg
>
> > From: nassif nassif <nynassif at gmail.com>
> > Date: July 12, 2012 3:08:26 AM PDT
> >
> > Hallo,
> >
> > i am trying to run a simple room with including the following material:
> >
> > void BSDF winBSDF
> >
> > 6 0 tblindsBack.xml 0 0 1 .
> >
> > 0
> >
> > 0
> >
> >
> >
> > winBSDF polygon window
> >
> > 0
> >
> > 0
> >
> > 9 etc......
> >
> >
> > and when I run ra in Terminal, i am getting the following:
> >
> > oconv: fatal - (material.rad): unknown type "BSDF"
> >
> >
> > I guess the material bsdf is missing in my list, anyone can advise?
> >
> > thx in advance
> >
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:24:17 -0700
> From: Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com>
> To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Predicting Patch-based diffuse
>         Irradiance      values
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> Hi Sokol,
>
> If you are OK using a Tregenza (or Reinhart) sky subdivision, then you can
> use rtcontrib to compute all the patch contributions at once.  A complete
> explanation of the process is provided in Axel Jacobs' tutorial, with
> additional methods for handling BSDFs described by Andy McNeil.
>
> Axel's tutorial:        http://tinyurl.com/884plcj
>
> Andy's tutorial:        http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfjk2vdh_79ff7nxwgq
>
> Hopefully,  you can figure it out from these, but feel free to ask more
> specific questions.
>
> Best,
> -Greg
>
> > From: sokol dervishi <dervishi_sokol at yahoo.com>
> > Date: July 12, 2012 4:11:12 AM PDT
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I wanted to ask a question related to the prediction of the diffuse
> horizontal (or vertical contribution) of a particular patch of the sky (
> with a specific patch altitude, solid angle, patch azimuth).
> >
> > I am developing a patch-based Irradiance model and I wanted to compare
> with other models in Radiance , e.g.Perez Model. I know How to calculate
> the diffuse horizontal, or any titled surface of the whole sky, but in my
> case I wanted to compare in a patch-based mode. So I need to simulate a
> patch-based contribution of diffuse component in horizontal or any titled
> surface.
> >
> > I thank you in advance,
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sokol
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:19:32 -0400
> From: Jack de Valpine <jedev at visarc.com>
> To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Updated Radiance Installers Available
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> Hey Rob,
>
> What a coincidence as I was just downloading and installing openstudio
> today... So I assume the radiance binaries are as of today rather than
> May 16?
>
> -Jack
>
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> On 7/12/2012 12:11 PM, Guglielmetti, Robert wrote:
> >
> https://openstudio.nrel.gov/getting-started-developer/getting-started-radia
> > nce
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:47:20 -0600
> From: "Guglielmetti, Robert" <Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov>
> To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Updated Radiance Installers Available
> Message-ID: <CC245B94.125A3%robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov>
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> Hi Jack,
>
> Good timing. Yeah, the updated packages were pushed up to the site last
> night, so you have the new ones. I updated the datestamp on the page
> this morning. The packages were actually made July 2, just took a while
> to get 'em posted. =)
>
> Let me know how you like OpenStudio!
>
> - Rob
>
>
>
>
> On 7/12/12 10:19 AM, "Jack de Valpine" <jedev at visarc.com> wrote:
>
> >Hey Rob,
> >
> >What a coincidence as I was just downloading and installing openstudio
> >today... So I assume the radiance binaries are as of today rather than
> >May 16?
> >
> >-Jack
> >
> >--
> ># Jack de Valpine
> ># president
> >#
> ># visarc incorporated
> ># http://www.visarc.com
> >#
> ># channeling technology for superior design and construction
> >
> >On 7/12/2012 12:11 PM, Guglielmetti, Robert wrote:
> >>
> >>
> https://openstudio.nrel.gov/getting-started-developer/getting-started-rad
> >>ia
> >> nce
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:51:32 -0600
> From: "Guglielmetti, Robert" <Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov>
> To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDF with rtcontrib
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> You could try OpenStudio for this; we have a simple implementation of the
> three phase method currently working with Window6 BSDF files. I'm still
> working on documentation, but I could help you along offline, if interested.
>
> - Rob
>
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>
> On 7/12/12 1:46 AM, "nassif nassif" <nynassif at gmail.com<mailto:
> nynassif at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hallo Andy,
>
> thank you for your reply.
>
> I looked through the Tutorial you advised about. I realised the generated
> results are for one day. In our office we are using the .EPW to generate
> the results for the whole year. (as used in the tutorial in rtcontrib). Is
> it possible with BSDF somehow? if yes, Is there any hints or tips to insert
> the .xml format generated by window7beta into the rtcontrib process?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> N.Nassif
>
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>    1. Re: BSDF xml into Radiance (Andrew McNeil)
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:43:53 -0700
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> Hi Nasif,
>
> Information for the BSDF material is at the bottom of page 12:
> http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/refer/refman.pdf
>
> Though I've found that the BSDF material doesn't work well for
> daylight coefficient based annual simulations (I'm assuming dds.bash is a
> dynamic daylight simulation script).  Putting the solar radiance into
> skypatches relies on probabilistic sampling to find patches containing the
> sun, and if you don't have much direct transmission from the direction of
> the sun, you aren't likely to find the sun.  Not finding the sun causes big
> errors.  For now, the three-phase method is a better alternative for annual
> simulation of BSDF materials (you can find a tutorial at the bottom of this
> page: http://www.radiance-online.org:82/learning/tutorials - if you're at
> work, your company's firewall might block access to port 82 - the temporary
> location of the new radiance online).
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, nassif nassif <nynassif at gmail.com<mailto:
> nynassif at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Hallo,
> >
> > I manage to obtain bsdf in xml Format using Window7beta, but i couldn't
> > know how to insert it in radiance. Is there somewhere an example how to
> > embed or convert it into radiance material? I need to use it in dds.bash
> (
> > or rtcontrib).
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
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