[Radiance-general] Annual simulations + BSDF
Andrew McNeil
andrew.mcneil at arup.com
Sun Oct 18 17:22:31 PDT 2009
Hi Greg,
I¹ve written a script that does this, it¹s been running over the weekend.
I¹ll share the script if the results are consistent with expectations ( I
give it a 40% chance ).
I decided to use both phi/theta input and output directions, because that¹s
consistent with the window 6 BSDF specification that mkillum uses.
I look forward to seeing your presentation slides for the conference next
week.
Andy
On 10/18/09 11:26 AM, "Greg Ward" <gregoryjward at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I guess I should write a program or script to create a BTDF file for an
> arbitrary shading system. It's not particularly difficult to do this using
> rtcontrib, but I need to find time to do it. The next couple of weeks are
> crazy between the workshop and the HDR Imaging book deadline, so I don't think
> I'll get to it before then. I won't be much help with your deadline,
> unfortunately.
>
> -Greg
>
>> From: Andrew McNeil <andrew.mcneil at arup.com>
>>
>>
>> Date: October 16, 2009 9:34:13 AM PDT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I¹m not going to Boston. Now I have
>>> yet another reason to wish I was going.
>>>
>>> I¹m glad you¹ve been able to further develop the 3-phase method. I see
>>> increasing demand for this type of analysis for complex façade shading
>>> systems. This is the fourth time I¹ve started down this route the other
>>> three times stopped abruptly for various reasons. Twice before with
>>> panelite products and once with an engineered scattering window film. The
>>> email I sent yesterday was a partially complete left in my drafts folder
>>> from two months ago - the last time this I was looking into this approach.
>>>
>>> I don¹t have a hard deadline yet. The goal for now is to develop a working
>>> model and then focus on accuracy later. Ideally I¹d have something that
>>> works in the next 2 weeks.
>>>
>>> Hopefully Panelite will have measured BTDF data in a few months that we
>>> slot into the analysis. If measured BTDF data doesn't become available then
>>> we¹ll focus on improving the accuracy of the simulated BTDF.
>>>
>>> So I guess my first step is approximating a BTDF with Radiance. I was
>>> thinking I could a uniform sky above the panelite model as input and a
>>> hemisphere of points below as sensors. With rtcontrib I could determine the
>>> light output in a direction for each input direction. The input directions
>>> could be tregenza sky divisions (?). The output could be phi/lambda
>>> directions (?). I imagine the key to a decent BTDF is lots of samples for
>>> each output direction. Maybe I create a grid of 1000(00?) points in a plane
>>> just below the panelite and use a script to create a hemisphere of sensor
>>> points centered at each grid point.
>>>
>>> I know very little about BTDF¹s and even less about creating them so I
>>> could use any tips, tricks, guidance, watch its, how are you going to
>>> account for?s and examples that anyone is willing to offer.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy
>>
>>
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