[Radiance-general] Re: measuring color
Greg Ward
gward at lmi.net
Wed May 12 19:35:04 CEST 2004
Hi Alexa,
>> ...
>> However, I think others will agree that pcond can be useful, and is
>> an improvement over the standard "linear with clamping" method for
>> image display.
>
> I don't doubt that it is better for image display and I think the idea
> with these kind of mappings is to go down the route of 'perception'
> rather than 'physics', one reason being the current limitations of
> CRT's e.g.
>
> My concern is physical accuracy. I want to display an image on a
> screen (eventually) and people should not be able to tell it apart
> from the real world scene. Of course, I can only simulate colours and
> luminances that my daft 8-bit monitor can actually render.
There are surround issues to consider as well, especially since the
monitor only covers a small portion of your view. Pcond attempts to
adapt the original scene levels to the current viewing environment --
something not even an HDR display can do. You need something like the
wide-field HDR viewer I built to test out tone operators for that.
> Talking about the limitations of CRT's. Has somebody seen
> DLP-technology displays in action and maybe even made some colour
> measurements? Apparently, the colour resolution can be cranked up to
> 15 bits per channel and the luminance range is also much bigger. I
> only wonder, if the 15-bit resolution per channel is actually really
> an improvement in terms of colour resolution for a given luminance
> level (in comparison to a traditional 8 bit resolution) or is
> basically necessary to cover the increased luminance range?
If the 15 bits is in a linear range, and a DLP is a linear device, then
you don't actually gain much in terms of dynamic range over an
8-bit/primary encoding using a standard 2.2 gamma. Beware of
manufacturer's claims regarding contrast ratios and bit depths. There
are no standards, and the marketing people have a field day with these
specs. Bottom line: don't trust it unless you've measured it
yourself.
> Is that the same technology used in last year's emerging technology
> SIGGRAPH session:
> Seetzen, H., Stuerzlinger, W., Vorozcovs, A., Wilson, H.R., Ashdown,
> I.,
> Ward, W. and Whitehead, L., 2003, High Dynamic Range Display System.
> SIGGRAPH 2003, Emerging Technologies Program.
> http://www.siggraph.org/s2003/conference/etech/hdr.html
We actually have a full-blown paper in this year's Siggraph, which is
now online as well at Wolfgang Heidrich's website if you're interested:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~heidrich/Papers/index.html#siggraph
This is a very cool device, but is only available in limited quantities
as a prototype to select companies and individuals. Sunnybrook
Technologies (http://www.sunnybrooktech.com/ Vancouver, BC) hopes to be
manufacturing the real deal by next year. As I said, even an HDR
monitor doesn't deal with surround issues, so it's really quite
difficult to reproduce the visual appearance of the real world in all
it's glory.
-Greg
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