[Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8

Wed Nov 14 10:44:53 PST 2012

Hi Khalid,

Thanks for all this extra detail!  OK, first of all, editing the weather
file to do shorter run periods is not recommended. As you saw, this has no
effect on the Radiance piece (this is because OpenStudio pulls the weather
info from an EnergyPlus pre-process run, which is for an annual
runperiod). Support for shorter runperiods is being put into the app
currently, but I'm not sure when that will be released. Editing the
weather file like you did also caused the "..... Last severe
error=ProcessScheduleInput: Schedule:Compact="THERMAL ZONE 1 LIGHTS
SCHEDULE" has missing days in its schedule pointers" error.

The illuminance map data is goofy; are you looking at data from
radout.sql, or eplusout.sql?

It appears that your simulation is running OK; on a slower system (and
especially on Windows) a two hour run time for an annual sim is not
unusual. I'd try re-running the sim with the full weather file, let it run
its course, and re-review the data. You can also send me your model and
weather file and I can make sure everything looks good.

Rob Guglielmetti
National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL)
Commercial Buildings Research Group
15013 Denver West Parkway MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
303.275.4319
robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov

On 11/13/12 9:32 PM, "Khalid" <khalid.ud at gmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks Rob
>
>I did edit the weather file, I made it just for one day, first day in
>January;
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqxjj5u1pls21pv/USA_FL_Tampa.Intl.AP.722110_TMY3
>.e
>pw?m
>
>However the simulation took about two hours. I was surprised to see in the
>simulation process that the simulation done for days
>In October and November and December:
>
>The output file:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/r6t086gca4soasu/out1.txt?m
>
>
>The following files will show the results;
>
>
>Illuminance map`:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/o429o5fuy8mf5wk/1.jpg?m
>
>
>Illuminance map2:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/qwgaicbxiu4jvxy/2.jpg?m
>
>
>Error:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/0vu1t33emw2zzb5/Err.txt?m
>
>
>
>Glare:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/517ev8j7mkls759/Glare.jpg
>
>
>Global horizontal illuminance
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0d5brmamejnqo6/Global%20Horizontal%20Illuminanc
>e.
>jpg?m
>
>
>When I did the simulation using radiance, I will get the simulation has
>failed.
>However, when I just run openstudio without radiance, the run will
>complete
>without any problem:
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/ejrphiqbmogpk2l/EPLUSout.txt?m
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:50 PM
>To: Discussion of Radiance with OpenStudio
>Subject: Re: [Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8
>
>OK, sounds like it's working. It should go through every hour of the year,
>and then it will perform the other calculations and let you know when it's
>finished. 
> 
>
>Rob Guglielmetti
>National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) Commercial Buildings Research
>Group
>15013 Denver West Parkway MS:RSF202
>Golden, CO 80401
>303.275.4319
>robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 11/13/12 11:10 AM, "Khalid" <khalid.ud at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, it continue printing:
>>Radiance (rcontrib) calculating: 1 2 09:00:00 Radiance (rcontrib)
>>calculating: 1 2 10:00:00 Radiance (rcontrib) calculating: 1 2 11:00:00
>>
>>and continue for the new hour
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>To: Discussion of Radiance with OpenStudio
>>Subject: Re: [Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8
>>
>>The OpenStudio app does not support sub-annual runperiods (yet), so
>>that will likely not work for you. When you say the sim does not stop,
>>is it still printing messages to the console window, i.e. still "doing
>stuff"?
>> 
>>
>>Rob Guglielmetti
>>National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) Commercial Buildings
>>Research Group
>>15013 Denver West Parkway MS:RSF202
>>Golden, CO 80401
>>303.275.4319
>>robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 11/13/12 10:48 AM, "Khalid" <khalid.ud at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I did not see any results, the simulation did not stop. I did made a
>>>change on the weather file and reduce it to day days, to see whether
>>>it will stop or not.
>>>I will send you any result that I will get.
>>>
>>>Thanks again
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:32 PM
>>>To: Discussion of Radiance with OpenStudio
>>>Subject: Re: [Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8
>>>
>>>Ok, then after the annual daylighting sim, you should have seen some
>>>messages about the lighting, and then the glare analysis, and finally
>>>the EnergyPlus messages.
>>>
>>>I'm happy to work with you offline on this, if you want to send me any
>>>results or screenshots directly (I assume you've noticed that the list
>>>server rejects posts with attachments?).
>>> 
>>>
>>>Rob Guglielmetti
>>>National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) Commercial Buildings
>>>Research Group
>>>15013 Denver West Parkway MS:RSF202
>>>Golden, CO 80401
>>>303.275.4319
>>>robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 11/13/12 10:15 AM, "Khalid" <khalid.ud at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks Rob,
>>>>I Have one space and one illuminance map
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:08 PM
>>>>To: Discussion of Radiance with OpenStudio
>>>>Subject: Re: [Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8
>>>>
>>>>OK, that's a good thing. How many spaces and illuminance maps do you
>>>>have in the model? Currently the program computes each map serially,
>>>>i.e. one at a time, so you'll have to wait for it to finish all the
>>>>maps before it's fully done. After that, it will do a dimming
>>>>analysis and create a lighting load schedule for EnergyPlus, which is
>>>>then automatically run as well. It can take some time on a large
>>>>model with lots of spaces. But it does sound like things are working
>>>>for
>you.
>>>>When it's all done you should see a "finished"
>>>>message and hopefully zero errors (there are usually warnings even on
>>>>successful runs), and then you can open the eplusout.sql file in
>>>>ResultsViewer to review the daylighting.
>>>>
>>>>Keep us posted!
>>>>
>>>>- Rob
>>>>
>>>>P.S. We are rewriting the daylighting script to compute all the
>>>>points in the model at one time, rather than space-by-space; this
>>>>speeds up the calculation times on large models significantly, and
>>>>should be available in the next iteration release which is due out
>>>>early next week.
>>>>
>>>>- Rob
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>Rob Guglielmetti
>>>>National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) Commercial Buildings
>>>>Research Group
>>>>15013 Denver West Parkway MS:RSF202
>>>>Golden, CO 80401
>>>>303.275.4319
>>>>robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 11/13/12 9:55 AM, "Khalid" <khalid.ud at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>The simulation does not stop. It continue running after reaching  31
>>>>>December.
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov]
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>>>To: Discussion of Radiance with OpenStudio
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Chris! Yes, Khalid, the text output seems to indicate that
>>>>>the annual simulation is running; does it not continue on through to
>>>>>December?
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob Guglielmetti
>>>>>National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) Commercial Buildings
>>>>>Research Group
>>>>>15013 Denver West Parkway MS:RSF202
>>>>>Golden, CO 80401
>>>>>303.275.4319
>>>>>robert.guglielmetti at nrel.gov
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 11/13/12 6:52 AM, "Christopher Rush"
>>>>><Christopher.Rush at arup.com<mailto:Christopher.Rush at arup.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure about OpenStudio specifically, but it looks like you're
>>>>>running an annual simulation. The last line seems to represent
>>>>>timestep
>>>>>1
>>>>>(January)
>>>>>8 at 11:00:00 AM. Wouldn't you expect it to keep going until it gets
>>>>>to
>>>>>12
>>>>>31 23:00:00 for December 31?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>From: Khalid [mailto:khalid.ud at gmail.com]
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:55 AM
>>>>>To: 'Discussion of Radiance with OpenStudio'
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Radiance-openstudio] OpenStudio on OSX 10.8
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>I did use Openstudio 0.9.4 . then it seem that radiance has start to
>>>>>work.
>>>>>However, it does not stop And keep running as shown in this link:
>>>>>https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqr6e9k7icn9ikf/RadFile.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I do appreciate if anybody can help in such problem
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
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