[Radiance-general] Radiance-general Digest, Vol 135, Issue 21

Ikrima Amaireh ezxia at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu May 14 12:25:52 PDT 2015


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Hi Rob,

Thanks for your answer.

Yes, it does, and versions printed successfully. 
Now, I am trying to investigate how to run radiance using tutorials, which are based on Unix. Can I do them using the radiance (have just installed for Win32) or shall I install the one for Linux?

Regards
Ikrima


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Radiance-general Digest, Vol 135, Issue 18 (Zack Rogers)
   2. Re: rcontrib for rendering - missing required modifier
      argument (urtza.uriarte at upc.edu)
   3. Installing Radiance (Ikrima Amaireh)
   4. Re: Installing Radiance (Guglielmetti, Robert)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 22:38:56 -0600
From: Zack Rogers <zrogers at daylightinginnovations.com>
To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Radiance-general Digest, Vol 135,
	Issue 18
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Hi Ikrima,

Not really knowing your exact needs, I'll try to answer:

>
> As Daysim and SPOT Pro's main difference is mainly how to treat with 
> sun and sky components, is that applies to all radiance-based-engine 
> tools (including Radiance command-line approach itself)? By other 
> words, is the way sun-and-sky-being-treated the main motivation to go 
> for radiance-based-engine-tools rather than simple tools (i.e. like Ecotect)?

The Daylight Coefficient or a Design Day interpolation annual simulation approaches do not have to be unique to Ray-tracing engines, like Radiance.
Radiosity engines can make use of the same concepts for annual simulation.
Radiosity can often run a single point in time quicker, with other limitations, and so can calculate more coefficients or design days.  I am not sure, but I believe Ecotect is providing an interface to Radiance for simulation and maybe has its own sun path and solar shading design tools.


> So if someone needs to just investigate how different complex 
> fenestration systems will affect indoor daylight coefficients (no 
> illuminance levels nor pictures needed), there is no need to generate 
> BSDF data for those CFS and even no need to use radiance?
>
I believe good representative BSDF data, or just a good model of the fenestration system itself, would still be very important to get a good calculation of daylight coefficients (which is as challenging of a calculation as illuminance).  Using Radiance based tools is not necessary as there are other Ray-tracing and Radiosity based tools that can do similar calculations.  One convenient thing is that the Radiance based tools use this standard XML BSDF definition now which aligns with the Windows 7 software giving greater access to these definitions.

Regards,
Zack

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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 11:51:37 +0200
From: urtza.uriarte at upc.edu
To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] rcontrib for rendering - missing
	required modifier argument
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  Hi Greg,

Thanks!?
Now, I will try to solve the problem with?/pcompos /(window1_*.hdr,
invalid argument)
  C:\Radiance\test\20150505\vmx\images>pcompos -a 10 -b 1 1 1 window1_*.hdr
> al
  lwindow1.hdr
  window1_*.hdr: Invalid argument

Best wishes!
Urtza.



Greg Ward <gregoryjward at gmail.com> escribi?:

> Hi Urtza,
>   ?
>   You should not be using the file "klems_ang.cal" but something like
> "klems_full.cal" or klems_int.cal. ?This is why Nkbins was undefined,
> and probably at least one reason your simulation is not working.
>   ?
>   Best,
>   -Greg
>
>> FROM: urtza.uriarte at upc.edu
>>
>>    SUBJECT: Re: [Radiance-general] Fwd: rcontrib for rendering -
>> missing required modifier argument
>>
>>    DATE: May 13, 2015 8:14:16 AM PDT
>
>> ?

  Hello Christopher,

Thank you for your response.
I think that in the radiance-4.2.2-win32.exe there is not the ximage
program. I usually use RadianceIV.exe program from Ecotect.

C:\Radiance\test\20150505\vmx>ximage window_000.hdr
"ximage" no se reconoce como un comando interno o externo,
programa o archivo por lotes ejecutable.

  However, I find klems_full.cal file that it has all information about
kbinS and Nkbins.
Now I have 145 .hdr files. They have light source, but the room walls are
black (is it usual?)

In reference to /pcompos,/ window1_*.hdr is invalid argument. Do you know
why?
  C:\Radiance\test\20150505\vmx\images>pcompos -a 10 -b 1 1 1
"window1_*.hdr" > al
  lwindow1.hdr
  window1_*.hdr: Invalid argument

Thank you in advance,
Kind regards,
Urtza.



Christopher Rush <Christopher.Rush at arup.com> escribi?:

> What do you use to view the HDR image? Try typing:
>
>    ximage -e auto window_000.hdr
>
>    This will automatically adjust the exposure of your image upon
> initially opening the file. It could be that your image does have
> non-zero values but the exposure is skewed in your viewpoint making it
> look black with the default exposure value.
>
>    Or type
>
>    ximage window_000.hdr
>
>    then hit the ?a? key while ximage is active to view it with
automatic
> exposure
>
>    while ximage is active you can also hit the ?=? key and click a
point
> in the image to adjust the exposure according to various points in the
> image
>
>    ?
>
>      FROM: urtza.uriarte at upc.edu [mailto:urtza.uriarte at upc.edu]
> SENT: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:01 AM
> ???
>
>
>
> However, generated window_000.hdr file does not have light. It is a
> black image, even though,?the render generated by rvu of the room it is
> ok.
> Do you know why does it happen?
>
> Thank you!
> Kind regards,
> Urtza
>
>     ?
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 19:25:37 +0100
From: Ikrima Amaireh <ezxia at nottingham.ac.uk>
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Subject: [Radiance-general] Installing Radiance
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Hi All,

I have installed radiance from (radiance-4.2-win32.exe<https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases/download/4.2/radiance-4.2-win32.exe>); Do I still need to compile radiance from source code after that? Or, it's now ready to be used?

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Ikrima





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Hi Ikrima,

If you used that installer, and you let it modify your path for you, then you are ready to run. You can test this by going to a command prompt and typing:

rtrace.exe -version

You should see the Radiance version printed. If you get a "rtrace.exe is not recognized..." error, then your paths are likely not set up correctly.

Having said that, I recommend you try out the latest v5.0 release of Radiance. There are some important bug fixes and new features, including 64-bit Windows binaries. We posted new installers just the other day, here:

https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases/tag/5.0.a.3

- Rob

On 5/14/15, 12:25 PM, "Ikrima Amaireh" <ezxia at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:ezxia at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:


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Hi All,

I have installed radiance from (radiance-4.2-win32.exe<https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases/download/4.2/radiance-4.2-win32.exe>); Do I still need to compile radiance from source code after that? Or, it's now ready to be used?

Regards
Ikrima



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