[Radiance-general] importing illuminance contour back to SketchUp?

Ery Mailing-List ery.mailinglist at gmail.com
Wed Oct 29 04:18:48 PDT 2014


Thanks Thomas,

My student suggested a much simpler method: leave the 3D contour alone,
just change the camera setting. Top view, parallel projection. Works for me!

Thanks for developing su2rad!

Ery





On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Thomas Bleicher <tbleicher at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Congrats! Nice model, btw.
>
> The generation of the contour lines depends on the 3d "topography" of the
> imported data. I use the SketchUp "intersect" function to slice the 3d
> shape into bands. The resulting edges are the contour lines you see. I'm
> sure there are better and more direct ways of generating the contours but
> in 2008/2009 SketchUp's API was not that advanced. Today it may be feasible
> to implement an alternative using a Ruby library.
>
> Anyway: you can just scale the 3d map to an almost flat plane or use one
> of the SU plugins to flatten the geometry. I never tried it with the su2rad
> import but I'm using the "Flatten" plugin by Thomas Thomason regularly on
> CAD imports.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Ery Mailing-List <
> ery.mailinglist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Thomas
>>
>> I managed to import rtrace illuminance values back into Sketchup via
>> su2rad, see the picture:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6h2rfc1odxzh3xu/su2rad_import.png?dl=0
>>
>> However, su2rad creates 3D contour (see the cones in the picture). Is
>> there a way to have a 2D (line) contour? I presume that should be easier
>> than triangulation process to create 3D contour.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ery
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Thomas Bleicher <tbleicher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ery
>>>
>>> Iirc you load the values in Ecotect into the grid and not directly into
>>> the model. So Ecotect can assign the values sequentially to the grid
>>> points. In su2rad you don't have that association and need to provide the
>>> coordinates in the same file. You can use the Unix tool 'join' to combine
>>> the coordinates from the points file and the results. If you are not used
>>> to command line tools you can also use Excel and export the sheet as CSV
>>> file.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Ery Mailing-List <ery.mailinglist at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Thomas. I will definitely try it. Ecotect I think reports only
>>>> the values, it saves it with the extension ".ok", but I will double check.
>>>> However, it will fall in the right location on the 3D model, so I think it
>>>> is checked against the grid information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Bleicher <tbleicher at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Su2rad has that feature but it may be disabled in the official
>>>>> version. You just need to remove a few comments in the loader file to get
>>>>> it working. In which format does Ecotect report the values? Just values or
>>>>> coordinates and values?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ery Mailing-List <ery.mailinglist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have this question for a long time and have asked it to a number of
>>>>>> people with a negative answer, and I can't remember if I have asked the
>>>>>> forum, but here it goes: is there a way that we can import the illuminance
>>>>>> contour back to SketchUp?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We use SketchUp as the interface to Radiance, but the missing piece
>>>>>> that we missed from Ecotect is the ability to import back the illuminance
>>>>>> values on the grid back into the 3D model, so that the contour can be put
>>>>>> into the 3D context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ery
>>>>>>
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