R: RE : [Radiance-general] daylight factor and rtrace cmd

giulio antonutto antonutto at yahoo.it
Thu Jul 16 12:10:22 PDT 2009


sorry, little time - may be not the answer you are looking for, but as Raphael says, nothing to do with it.
anyway if you want a point and the illuminance at that point in the output file, 
use that point in the grid, -I in rtrace and again -opv.
this saves the point from the grid to the final output.
 
explanation, the point of the grid is the intersection point in the calcualtion as the observer is moved 1 unit from it and used to trace a luminance calculation converted in illuminance...
anyway 
-opv
 
ciao
G


--- Gio 16/7/09, Compagnon Raphaël <Raphael.Compagnon at hefr.ch> ha scritto:


Da: Compagnon Raphaël <Raphael.Compagnon at hefr.ch>
Oggetto: RE : [Radiance-general] daylight factor and rtrace cmd
A: "Radiance general discussion" <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
Data: Giovedì 16 luglio 2009, 20:30


rtrace -oodv has nothing to do with the "1 meter offset". In fact the "1 meter offsett" thing is just related to how the rtrace -I command computes irradiance at the points and in the directions specified at the input.

Raphael


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De : radiance-general-bounces at radiance-online.org [radiance-general-bounces at radiance-online.org] de la part de Guglielmetti, Robert [Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov]
Date d'envoi : jeudi, 16. juillet 2009 20:09
À : Radiance general discussion
Objet : RE: [Radiance-general] daylight factor and rtrace cmd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: radiance-general-bounces at radiance-online.org [mailto:radiance-
> general-bounces at radiance-online.org] On Behalf Of Compagnon Raphaël
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: Radiance general discussion
> Subject: RE : [Radiance-general] daylight factor and rtrace cmd
>
> The rtrace -i behaves differently: rtrace will trace a ray for each input
> point in the specified direction. Then it will compute the irradiance at
> the first instersection point found in the scene. In your case, with the
> same input file you would get the irradiance on the ceiling... which is
> probably not what you really need.
> This explains why the most useful -I option exists!

Well now I've gone and confused everyone. You are right, -i (lowercase) is used for picking out illuminance at scene points, and so works as Raphael has described. -I (uppercase) is what I normally use for computing illuminance at a point. I simply use -I with -ov which gives me illuminance at that point. I have not used those other output fields and I'm still a little confused as to how this "1 meter offset" happens with -oodv.

Here's a thread-concluding post from a couple years ago that I have consulted in the past:

http://www.radiance-online.org/pipermail/radiance-general/2007-March/004213..html

- Rob

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