[Radiance-general] monitor model upload in Desktop Radiance

Mohamad Tarek Araji maraji2 at uiuc.edu
Tue Mar 20 18:07:44 CET 2007

Hi Thomas,

Thank you so much for this detailed massage. I will follow all the enclosed steps and get back to you.


---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:11:20 -0500
>From: Thomas Seebohm <tseebohm at engmail.uwaterloo.ca>  
>Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] monitor model upload in Desktop Radiance  
>To: Radiance general discussion <radiance-general at radiance-online.org>
>The general procedure that I would use is to run Desktop Radiance first 
>without the monitor in the scene and then to modify the files that 
>Desktop Radiance has produced to include the .rad file for the monitor. 
>If the .rad file for the monitor represents a monitor already 
>positioned at the right location in the scene (and of the right 
>dimensions) then one simply has to add the following line in the .rif 
>scene = monitor.rad  and  to add the monitor.rad file to the list of 
>rad files that Desktop Radiance has already produced
>Assuming the file is called monitor.rad
>If the monitor is not scaled correctly and/or not positioned correctly, 
>then one must convert the monitor.rad file to an octree first by typing 
>the line,  oconv monitor.rad  > monitor.oct, at the  command prompt.
>Next you need to create a new .rad file with this octree to position 
>and scale the monitor  correctly. This new text file would have the 
>following lines:
>void instance monitor1
>13 monitor.oct -s 1.0000 -rz 0.00000 -rx 0.0000 -ry 0.0000 - t 0.0000 
>0.0000 0.0000
>where the number after the -s represents the scale factor
>the numbers after the -rz, -rx, -ry represent the rotations (probably 
>in degrees)
>and the three numbers after the -t represent the x,y,z translation of 
>the monitor to the right location in the scene
>This new rad file should then be included with the list of rad files 
>that Desktop Radiance has already included and, as above, the following 
>line should be added to the rif file:
>scene = monitornew.rad
>where monitornew.rad is the new rad file.
>In order to do this you will, of course, need to find out where Desktop 
>Radiance stored the files it created.
>Lastly, after you have made all these changes, you need to run Radiance 
>from the command line rather than from the Desktop Radiance menu.
>In know this sounds a bit complicated but only if you are doing it for 
>the first time. You do this by clicking on the last .bat file that 
>Desktop Radiance created.
>On Mar 20, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gregory J. Ward wrote:
>> As I understand it, Mohamad is asking how to incorporate a model 
>> already in Radiance format into a Desktop Radiance scene.  There must 
>> be a back door or some trick, but I don't know anything about DR.
>> -Greg
>>> From: "Mark de la Fuente" <MdelaFuente at wmtao.com>
>>> Date: March 20, 2007 6:06:43 AM PDT
>>> Are you asking for a radiance to autocad geometry converter?  That I 
>>> know of, there are only tools for exporting TO radiance, not from.  
>>> You might be better off either drawing your own cad furniture or 
>>> downloading furniture off the internet.  If you use the regular 
>>> radiance, you could combine both exported cad geometry as well as 
>>> radiance geometry (from some library) into your scene.
>>> Mark
>>> From: Mohamad Tarek Araji <maraji2 at uiuc.edu>
>>> Date: March 19, 2007 9:36:26 AM PDT
>>> Dear all,
>>> If at all possible, could you please help on that.
>>> I'm in the process of modeling an office space in Desktop Radiance. 
>>> Greg provided for me an accurate monitor model as part of the 
>>> furnishing to be incorporated in this space. The monitor is a .rad 
>>> file format. I didn't get the chance to insert the file in the cad 
>>> system. I asked Greg about this and he doesn’t know enough about 
>>> Desktop Radiance to advise me on how to incorporate the monitor in my 
>>> model. Is there an advice that might help. The option of accessing 
>>> the file using the furnishing folder in the radiance menu (by 
>>> uploading the monitor in the library) didn't work.
>>> Is there is an efficient way to upload the monitor into my Desktop 
>>> Radiance model.
>>> With thanks and you are much appreciated.
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Mohamad
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